Resolved, 9/11 Truth: The Initiation of Explosions / Collapse of WTC 1 Did Not Begin at the Location of the "Plane" Hit

Update 12/9/07

Update 12/5/07

Update 11/10/07

Keith Seffen’s WTC Collapse Folly: Not Even Wrong

Okay, I’ve read the paper. If I was a referee for this paper, I would write even less than I wrote about the last paper discussed above. This paper is, as Wolfgang Pauli once said, “not even wrong.” (An apparently scientific argument is said to be not even wrong if it is based on assumptions that are known to be incorrect, or alternatively theories which cannot possibly be falsified or used to predict anything. ) That’s probably what I would say in a referee report. But my wife wants me to tell you, the reader, why I say this.

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Air America/Thom Hartman 9/11 Truth Debate: Kevin Ryan vs. Michael Shermer MP3…

In case you have trouble downloading it from there (as opposed to just listening to it) you can get the full 41.38 MB MP3 file at the following (somewhat slow) link:…

Also, mirrored for QUICK download here.

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Exhibit 1.
Slide Show of 1st Hit Damage:

Choose the Option at target web page: “The Attack Begins”

Screen shot from that video is shown below:

Exhibit 2.
Video Which Includes the Initiation of Collapse

Based on these videos, I would suggest the following:

1. The initiation of the explosions starting the collapse, based on the orange hot spots and then a moment later a horizontal row of explosions are roughly as high up as the plane stuck WTC 1.

2. For those who think that the idea that this a “top-down” collapse, (not a bottom up as is usual for other video specimens of CDs), you are omitting the details of clear instantaneous events which do happen to commence near the top of WTC 1. However, whatever one attributes the collapse with the idea that the “plane” crash damage, and ensuing fires, and loss of structural integrity, it is a complete nonstarter. Look at the evidence: there is no way to negate the idea that detonations of some type are underway.

The following screen snaps are presented in sequence:
(this snaps occur at the time stamp of about 1:31 remaining in the video as shown by the video player at the target web page)

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Top Down Demolition

One of the main arguments defenders of the official story have made against the controlled demolition of the Twin Towers is that demolitions never start at the top of the building. In other words, they claim that demolitions always start at the bottom and proceed upwards.

Moreover, there were numerous reports of huge explosions in the basement and other locations well below the collapse zones in the Twin Towers. For example, a stationary engineer who worked in the basement of one of the towers testified that an entire below-level garage and a 50-ton hydraulic press were demolished long before the tower collapsed.

However, a new video shows an example of a top-down demolition of another building:

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