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u2r2h blog: Planted Aircraft Debris Evidence

Posted by bg on August 29, 2007

u2r2h blog: Planted Aircraft Debris Evidence

u2r2h blog

Our civilization is locked in the grip of an ideology – CORPORATISM. An ideology that denies and undermines the legitimacy of individuals as the citizen in a democracy. The particular imbalance of this ideology leads to a worship of self-interest and a denial of the public good. The practical effects on the individual are passivity and conformism in the areas that matter, and non-conformism in the areas that don’t. John Ralston Saul

28 August, 2007


Planted Aircraft Debris Evidence

Was Major 9/11 Evidence Planted In Order To Mislead The Public?
http://www.explosive911analysis.com/planted.htm

Randi Rhodes FORUM posting

http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=exploding_the_airliner_crash_myth

NIST report PDF (from Democratic Underground posting)

Major events timed to an accuracy of 1 second are:
• First plane strike on WTC 1: 8:46:30 a.m.
• Second plane strike on WTC 2: 9:02:59 a.m.
• Collapse of WTC 2: 9:58:59 a.m.
• Collapse of WTC 1: 10:28:25 a.m.
• Collapse of WTC 7: 5:20:52 p.m.

WTC2 The aircraft struck the tower with a measured speed of 545 miles per hour ± 18 miles per hour

West Side Highway

view photos Uploaded on April 12, 2006

All sizes

Taken in New York, New York (See more photos here)
40°42′ 40″ N, 74°0′ 53″ W 40.711109-74.014828

I went to the otherside (West Side Hwy) of my building, and came across this – what looks to be an office chair or a airplane seat embedded in the back of a car. I found out that the telephone pole near the building was wiped out by a falling plane tire.

This photo also belongs to:

9/11 WTC Attack Photojournal (Set)

52
photos

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hiro_oshima/127765039/

http://www.letsrollforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13369&highlight=

A. It looked like pieces of a plane, skin of a plane. I mean, they weren’t really discernible. I couldn’t say this was this part of a plane or that was that part. Just knowing a plane had hit the building and I looked and I saw it looked like the skin off a wing or a fuselage or wherever it came from.

Q. Clearly not building material?

A. No. The building material was sort of gray and you could see it, you know, how it differed from the plane. I was listening to the tape this morning of the people calling up and they were describing the plane that hit the building. Actually, so many people saw it. They actually described the plane as it came in. They said it was a *military-type plane and it was green* and it was this.

EMT STEPHEN HESS West below Liberty

came through the tunnel, and our initial response was seeing body parts and airplane parts all over the west side. West HW

http://www.911blogger.com/2005/12/airplane-parts-from-911.html

Monday, December 12, 2005


Airplane Parts from 9/11

Here is some information that was sent in. Please note, there are more images than this, and I did alter these ones to limit their file size, so if you need the originals please contact us or Louis.

I have uploaded all the images here: http://www.putfile.com/somebigguy
They are about 6 MB in total.

Update: I was just informed that images posted in the above link are not full size, so definitely, get in contact if you’d like the full size images.

I was there that morning of 9/11 working on a nearby roof and the following week I was asked to go to Ground Zero to help with the rigging of some of the buildings that were damaged. I worked on, 1 Liberty Plaza, Century 21 Building, Hilton Millenium Hotel, and The Federal Building.


Working at the Federal Building, it was our job to hang swing stage scaffolds from the 7th floor setback roof. When I first got up on the lower setback roof and saw the amount of debris I was amazed. Giant pieces of the World Trade Center aluminum siding were everywhere. We had to move most of them to fasten our tie-back scaffold cables. While moving one of these 7 foot pieces of aluminum I noticed what looked like an airplane part. I picked it up and it had a serial number on it and something in writing “hydraulic piston”.

About a half hour later, the Postal Investigator and an FBI Agent came up to the setback roof. I was asked where exactly did I find it and not to remove anything else, especially anything spray painted in yellow paint. I was told that there were many airplane parts on the roof and most of them were identified by yellow spray paint.

Well throughout the day working on the roof I had come across the yellow paint on some objects. No one was supposed to have a camera on the Ground Zero site, but everyone had one. I had my in my work bucket and took pictures of the whole setback roof and debris.

Well, we had problems securing some tie- back cables to the setback roof and I had to go to the upper roof to see if we could run the cables up there. I had my camera and headed for the upper roof and I couldn’t believe what I saw. There was a large piece of a landing gear and pieces of airplane parts all over the roof. I took many pictures and quickly left he roof.

I have been told just recently that there are airplane experts who could easily identify what type of airplane it was from my photos. If there is anyone who would be willing to examine my photos and has knowledge to identify the “TRUTH” of what type of aiplane really crashed into the WTC that day, I would be more than happy to show them my photos.

A large airplane jet engine was photographed in the street near Church St., but was immediately roped off my the FBI. Those photos have raised many questions as to whether the plane was really was a 767 engine or a 737. The engine has since been supposedly “lost” or buried at the landfill. Why would such an artifact of great importance quietly disappear and not end up in a museum!

I’m a construction worker and have almost no knowledge of photography, my pictures are real and authenticand have never been altered in any way. So, if you’re an expert in airplane part and think you can finally clear up this question of airplane conspiracy, email me at chingy711@verizon.net

- Louis

posted by somebigguy at 8:23 AM EST

posted by u2r2h at Tuesday, August 28, 2007

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u2r2h blog: Planted Aircraft Debris Evidence

Posted by bg on August 28, 2007

u2r2h blog: Planted Aircraft Debris Evidence

u2r2h blog

Our civilization is locked in the grip of an ideology – CORPORATISM. An ideology that denies and undermines the legitimacy of individuals as the citizen in a democracy. The particular imbalance of this ideology leads to a worship of self-interest and a denial of the public good. The practical effects on the individual are passivity and conformism in the areas that matter, and non-conformism in the areas that don’t. John Ralston Saul

28 August, 2007


Planted Aircraft Debris Evidence

Was Major 9/11 Evidence Planted In Order To Mislead The Public?
http://www.explosive911analysis.com/planted.htm

Randi Rhodes FORUM posting

http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=exploding_the_airliner_crash_myth

NIST report PDF (from Democratic Underground posting)

Major events timed to an accuracy of 1 second are:
• First plane strike on WTC 1: 8:46:30 a.m.
• Second plane strike on WTC 2: 9:02:59 a.m.
• Collapse of WTC 2: 9:58:59 a.m.
• Collapse of WTC 1: 10:28:25 a.m.
• Collapse of WTC 7: 5:20:52 p.m.

WTC2 The aircraft struck the tower with a measured speed of 545 miles per hour ± 18 miles per hour

West Side Highway

view photos Uploaded on April 12, 2006

All sizes

Taken in New York, New York (See more photos here)
40°42′ 40″ N, 74°0′ 53″ W 40.711109-74.014828

I went to the otherside (West Side Hwy) of my building, and came across this – what looks to be an office chair or a airplane seat embedded in the back of a car. I found out that the telephone pole near the building was wiped out by a falling plane tire.

This photo also belongs to:

9/11 WTC Attack Photojournal (Set)

52
photos

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hiro_oshima/127765039/

http://www.letsrollforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13369&highlight=

A. It looked like pieces of a plane, skin of a plane. I mean, they weren’t really discernible. I couldn’t say this was this part of a plane or that was that part. Just knowing a plane had hit the building and I looked and I saw it looked like the skin off a wing or a fuselage or wherever it came from.

Q. Clearly not building material?

A. No. The building material was sort of gray and you could see it, you know, how it differed from the plane. I was listening to the tape this morning of the people calling up and they were describing the plane that hit the building. Actually, so many people saw it. They actually described the plane as it came in. They said it was a *military-type plane and it was green* and it was this.

EMT STEPHEN HESS West below Liberty

came through the tunnel, and our initial response was seeing body parts and airplane parts all over the west side. West HW

http://www.911blogger.com/2005/12/airplane-parts-from-911.html

Monday, December 12, 2005


Airplane Parts from 9/11

Here is some information that was sent in. Please note, there are more images than this, and I did alter these ones to limit their file size, so if you need the originals please contact us or Louis.

I have uploaded all the images here: http://www.putfile.com/somebigguy
They are about 6 MB in total.

Update: I was just informed that images posted in the above link are not full size, so definitely, get in contact if you’d like the full size images.

I was there that morning of 9/11 working on a nearby roof and the following week I was asked to go to Ground Zero to help with the rigging of some of the buildings that were damaged. I worked on, 1 Liberty Plaza, Century 21 Building, Hilton Millenium Hotel, and The Federal Building.


Working at the Federal Building, it was our job to hang swing stage scaffolds from the 7th floor setback roof. When I first got up on the lower setback roof and saw the amount of debris I was amazed. Giant pieces of the World Trade Center aluminum siding were everywhere. We had to move most of them to fasten our tie-back scaffold cables. While moving one of these 7 foot pieces of aluminum I noticed what looked like an airplane part. I picked it up and it had a serial number on it and something in writing “hydraulic piston”.

About a half hour later, the Postal Investigator and an FBI Agent came up to the setback roof. I was asked where exactly did I find it and not to remove anything else, especially anything spray painted in yellow paint. I was told that there were many airplane parts on the roof and most of them were identified by yellow spray paint.

Well throughout the day working on the roof I had come across the yellow paint on some objects. No one was supposed to have a camera on the Ground Zero site, but everyone had one. I had my in my work bucket and took pictures of the whole setback roof and debris.

Well, we had problems securing some tie- back cables to the setback roof and I had to go to the upper roof to see if we could run the cables up there. I had my camera and headed for the upper roof and I couldn’t believe what I saw. There was a large piece of a landing gear and pieces of airplane parts all over the roof. I took many pictures and quickly left he roof.

I have been told just recently that there are airplane experts who could easily identify what type of airplane it was from my photos. If there is anyone who would be willing to examine my photos and has knowledge to identify the “TRUTH” of what type of aiplane really crashed into the WTC that day, I would be more than happy to show them my photos.

A large airplane jet engine was photographed in the street near Church St., but was immediately roped off my the FBI. Those photos have raised many questions as to whether the plane was really was a 767 engine or a 737. The engine has since been supposedly “lost” or buried at the landfill. Why would such an artifact of great importance quietly disappear and not end up in a museum!

I’m a construction worker and have almost no knowledge of photography, my pictures are real and authenticand have never been altered in any way. So, if you’re an expert in airplane part and think you can finally clear up this question of airplane conspiracy, email me at chingy711@verizon.net

- Louis

posted by somebigguy at 8:23 AM EST

posted by u2r2h at Tuesday, August 28, 2007

Posted in 1st hit, 2nd hit, 9/11 Truth, wtc | Leave a Comment »

Official Loose Change Blog: Interview With John Schroeder, FDNY

Posted by bg on August 19, 2007

Blogger Thoughts:

As I watch this video, I consider if there is any way that the probable truth about 9/11 can be captured in the upcoming release of Loose Change. This firefighter testimony is valuable in many ways. However, there are so many pieces to the puzzle.

There seems no doubt in my estimation that the evidence goes completely against the idea that commercial airliners hit the towers on 9/11. What really happened instead, and how the official story was broadcast as a cover up is worthy of hours of a video presentation to itself.

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Official Loose Change Blog: Interview With John Schroeder, FDNY


8.08.2007


Interview With John Schroeder, FDNY

Loose Change version:

WeAreChange version:

9/11 Firefighter Sets the Historical Record Straight

By Manny Badillo, Victim’s Family Member, August 7th, 2007

BROOKLYN, N.Y. – Firefighter John Schroeder, assigned to Engine Company 10 directly across the street from the World Trade Center complex, holds back tears and describes his first-hand experience on Sept. 11th. His story directly contradicts many aspects of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks any corroborates many other eyewitnesses testimony.

“Standing outside the firehouse with my buddies, we were talking about how beautiful the day was. Then just like that, our lives changed forever. Some of those guys I would never see again.”

In this exclusive interview, Firefighter Schroeder recollects in great detail how he was one of the first firefighters to rush to the complex. “We first assembled on West Street, where we saw someone burnt beyond recognition. We were like ‘What is going on here?’ and then went straight into the Marriot building” From there, Firefighter Schroeder made his way to the lobby of the North Tower. “It looked like a bomb went off, and we started making our way up the stairs to rescue as many people as we could.”

As they were making there way up the floors, Firefighter Schroeder heard a huge explosion. “The elevators just blew right out. We couldn’t believe it. The plane hits 80 floors up but the elevators explode at least five minutes later? It was unreal.”

Firefighter Schroeder made it all the way up to the 23rd floor before barely hearing on the failing radios that another plane was coming in. That plane would hit the South Tower, though for some reason, “We were tossed like a rag doll by another explosion in our building. People were making there way down the stairwells burnt like you couldn’t believe. We were all shocked because it seemed as if there was fire everywhere, on so many floors. It just didn’t make sense”.

The stairwells were black, and at that point, firefighters were making the decision to head back down stairs. In making there way down to the third floor, they were not able to find an exit. “The lobby was like a war zone. We could not find our way out. Then, all of a sudden, one of the maintenance workers had a key that opened a back door that got us out of there. He saved my life.” That worker was Willie Rodriguez. “I want to thank him from the bottom of my heart.”

Firefighter Schroeder today has lost 40% of his lung capacity. “We haven’t been treated properly at all. From the day of the attack, our physical and mental health has deteriorated and it seems as if no one cares. To lose friends, to have to recover their bodies in the days after, to be offered no protections against that horrific-smelling dust that was everywhere even though the government said the air was OK to breathe is just not right.” Some of Firefighter’s Schroeder’s best friends have gotten out of the FDNY altogether while others accepted money and trips to help. “I stayed right here and did the right thing and now it feels as if I’m suffering the most. Where is our government to help the one’s with the toughest jobs on that day and the days after?”

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Official Loose Change Blog: Interview With John Schroeder, FDNY

Posted by bg on August 19, 2007

Blogger Thoughts:

As I watch this video, I consider if there is any way that the probable truth about 9/11 can be captured in the upcoming release of Loose Change. This firefighter testimony is valuable in many ways. However, there are so many pieces to the puzzle.

There seems no doubt in my estimation that the evidence goes completely against the idea that commercial airliners hit the towers on 9/11. What really happened instead, and how the official story was broadcast as a cover up is worthy of hours of a video presentation to itself.

—————————————————————————-

Official Loose Change Blog: Interview With John Schroeder, FDNY


8.08.2007


Interview With John Schroeder, FDNY

Loose Change version:

WeAreChange version:

9/11 Firefighter Sets the Historical Record Straight

By Manny Badillo, Victim’s Family Member, August 7th, 2007

BROOKLYN, N.Y. – Firefighter John Schroeder, assigned to Engine Company 10 directly across the street from the World Trade Center complex, holds back tears and describes his first-hand experience on Sept. 11th. His story directly contradicts many aspects of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks any corroborates many other eyewitnesses testimony.

“Standing outside the firehouse with my buddies, we were talking about how beautiful the day was. Then just like that, our lives changed forever. Some of those guys I would never see again.”

In this exclusive interview, Firefighter Schroeder recollects in great detail how he was one of the first firefighters to rush to the complex. “We first assembled on West Street, where we saw someone burnt beyond recognition. We were like ‘What is going on here?’ and then went straight into the Marriot building” From there, Firefighter Schroeder made his way to the lobby of the North Tower. “It looked like a bomb went off, and we started making our way up the stairs to rescue as many people as we could.”

As they were making there way up the floors, Firefighter Schroeder heard a huge explosion. “The elevators just blew right out. We couldn’t believe it. The plane hits 80 floors up but the elevators explode at least five minutes later? It was unreal.”

Firefighter Schroeder made it all the way up to the 23rd floor before barely hearing on the failing radios that another plane was coming in. That plane would hit the South Tower, though for some reason, “We were tossed like a rag doll by another explosion in our building. People were making there way down the stairwells burnt like you couldn’t believe. We were all shocked because it seemed as if there was fire everywhere, on so many floors. It just didn’t make sense”.

The stairwells were black, and at that point, firefighters were making the decision to head back down stairs. In making there way down to the third floor, they were not able to find an exit. “The lobby was like a war zone. We could not find our way out. Then, all of a sudden, one of the maintenance workers had a key that opened a back door that got us out of there. He saved my life.” That worker was Willie Rodriguez. “I want to thank him from the bottom of my heart.”

Firefighter Schroeder today has lost 40% of his lung capacity. “We haven’t been treated properly at all. From the day of the attack, our physical and mental health has deteriorated and it seems as if no one cares. To lose friends, to have to recover their bodies in the days after, to be offered no protections against that horrific-smelling dust that was everywhere even though the government said the air was OK to breathe is just not right.” Some of Firefighter’s Schroeder’s best friends have gotten out of the FDNY altogether while others accepted money and trips to help. “I stayed right here and did the right thing and now it feels as if I’m suffering the most. Where is our government to help the one’s with the toughest jobs on that day and the days after?”

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Digging into Photo / Video Evidence of the 2nd Hit on 9/11

Posted by bg on August 5, 2007

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Digging into Photo / Video Evidence of the 2nd Hit on 9/11

Posted by bg on August 5, 2007

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A Rare Post (9/11 Mass Deception) (updated)

Posted by bg on June 25, 2007

Update 6/25/07

Summary of this blog’s arguments

Here’s a quick summary of the arguments made at this blog about why there is no real evidence that planes hit the Twin Towers, and why there is strong reason to believe that false images were broadcast on 9/11. I will fill in the arguments with more links as time allows. Many of these ideas are not my original ideas, and I have tried to cite to original authors and be faithful to what they said. On the other hand, I would be surprised if the mainstream authors I cite would support the conclusions I draw from their work.
  blog it

Update 6/24/07

The Empire of Clowns Continues on Its Murderous, Genocidal Path

At this point in the monstrously bloody course of American Empire, I suppose I might take the sardonically grateful point of view. At least we now have some direct experience of how easy it was for nauseatingly corrupt Roman leaders to impose their will upon the ignorant hordes, and literally to get away with murder. Hell, who needed to “get away” with murder? Bloody, painful, lingering, ungraspably sadistic murder was one of the major entertainments.
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A Blog Which is New to Me
Superb!

Eleanor Digby; or, All the lonely people

In the land of the deaf and dumb, Digby is queen.
She’s the beltway pundits’
platonic form of a netroots insurgent,
and for the best of reasons: she’s a fuckin’ high-C fool,
just the ticket for the corporate party lite’s co-opt act.

Advice to you, my queen, before you ride out agin’ ‘em with your posse of
well-intended white-bonneted ronin –
first uncover the full dimensions of this Darth Amerika you are fixin’ to wrest
institutional power from.

Corrected Link to Digby’s Article Here:

Digby Speaks: The Netroots Revolution

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Is it any wonder that John Q. Public hasn’t caught on to the deception?

As part of its cover story on “what you need to know now,” Newsweek conducted a broad poll on a variety of political and cultural affairs. There were plenty of interesting results, but one section was particularly noteworthy.

Even today, more than four years into the war in Iraq, as many as four in ten Americans (41 percent) still believe Saddam Hussein’s regime was directly involved in financing, planning or carrying out the terrorist attacks on 9/11, even though no evidence has surfaced to support a connection. A majority of Americans were similarly unable to pick Saudi Arabia in a multiple-choice question about the country where most of the 9/11 hijackers were born. Just 43 percent got it right — and a full 20 percent thought most came from Iraq.

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Update 6/23/07

Update 6/22/07
From Morgan Reynold’s Web Site

clipped from www.nomoregames.net
Reynolds Booted from No Plane Club
Inducted into ‘Dirty Liars Club’
I was recently exiled from a group called the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine Eleven (SPINE) because I appeared on the Fox News Channel and responded to a question about planes in part by saying, “…There were no big Boeing crashes. At all four events, for example, there is no significant wreckage…an aluminum plane cannot go through a building like the South Tower was, as if it were thin air, glide right through it…”
The land of 9/11 is treacherous and the latest tremor was that Gerard Holmgren, a pioneer “no planer” and debater extraordinaire, broke the stunning news that I am “a plane hugger who is pretending to be a no plane proponent.” Mr. Holmgren makes his case by assuming the worst about my intentions, my work and what I say, so I must try to correct the record. But first, let me explain why I am responding to him now rather than, say, back in January.
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Update 6/21/07

No-plane witness?

http://www.tgeneva.com/~davethom/

After a while, I saw a huge fireball on the second tower — being on the far side, I didn’t see the plane and assumed a bomb or something had gone off. Other people behind me on land had a wider view and said they saw the second plane approach from far away, figuring it was a rescue plane of some kind. The second image shows the puff of the second impact, with arcing debris on the left side.

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Update 6/20/07
Read this section last. Links from a website of pre-9/11 articles that might provide a historical and global context for 9/11:

Oracle of Alberta

Seven Golden Threads of the Global Quilt

Ode to Joy

On the Side of Golden Angels

Trick or Treat? – Novus Ordo Seclorum* and China

Demystifying Gold and Oil Trading through the LBMA Part – I

The H.M.S. Prosperity and Icebergs

Enroute to the Millennium Checkmate & a One World Order

Unveiling the Wizards of Oz – Part 1

Unveiling the Wizards of Oz – Part 2


6/19/07
This blog is meant to play the role of a diary or notepad for interesting links, many having to do with September 11. Rarely do I post anything near the short or long essays like other bloggers.

With that said, I think there has been enough activity at Screw Loose Change Blog and other places I frequent to warrant a “coming clean” or at least an explanation of where I stand with respect to 9/11 alternative theories. For 98% of those who find most all “9/11 Truthers” repugnant, I realize that there is not much to be gained as far as earning respect. So, I’m doing this for myself and for those other 2% of 9/11 Govt. story supporters, and for all those who pour your heart and soul into speaking out against the certain avoidance of the truth, and/or lies by individuals who owe their Country more of an explanation than has been provided.

To keep this short, I’m going to focus on the 2nd hit on 9/11, and the particular point of view which is sometimes called the “no plane” argument.

In many ways, implications of 9/11 alternative explanations describing who was behind 9/11 and the specifics of how it was executed are not important. Additionally, various authors have developed the abbreviations such as LIHOP and MIHOP. As useful as these labels are, I am arguing that the specifics of how 9/11 was engineered, and the extent that a certain circle of preps either provocateured, or engineered the destruction is not the overarching concern either. I want to note clearly that I’m saying that nuts and bolts of what happened and how, and how many innocent lives were destroyed, is of lesser import than an understanding of the nature of the “trick” and the huge payoff that the trick provided.

For those of you who simply want to debate and debunk various alternative theories, I know the following is going to bore you, so skip it if you wish.

Now, the rest of us, not the ones who just want to argue, and who are more interested in the impact of 9/11 on civilization than “conspiracy/anti-conspiracy debates”, should be able to agree on the following:

1) 9/11 was a slam dunk as a propaganda tool.

As a propaganda tool, it justified:

a) aggressive invasions of foreign lands
b) laws passed to enable police actions (spying, mass hysteria, and other steps including unchecked arrest and detainment) which would normally be met with massive push back from legislators and members of the public.

The mass media based experience of 9/11 created a myth of a grave danger (from mainly Arab terrorists) that would provide a foundational meme to justify a seemingly unlimited amount of military mobilization, spending, and general fear culture.

The idea that there exists a group of people who could have planned such an ambitious operation was indeed very difficult for this author accept, as it is for a huge majority of Americans. For example, there is very little in mainstream documented history of the US that could begin to explain how the press, particularly all major TV broadcasting outlets, could be co-opted to play along or support such a wholesale betrayal of the truth. Therefore, in order to begin to make a case for such a conspiracy, one must be able to point to evidence that this coordinated trickery is possible. (Hint: the ruse only required the insider status of a hand-full of individuals with access and amazing technology.)

Of course it’s way beyond the scope of this post to provide the background to make the case for the “Octopus”; for that reason, I’ll focus on the 2nd hit to serve as a gateway to seeing the larger picture.

Sometimes, rather than jump to a dry description of what transpired on 9/11 with the 2nd hit event, it is instructive to see how others have grappled with the same evidence and interpretations, and how they have struggled and fallen short of getting to the crux of the matter as well as failing to find the clues pointing to breakthrough knowledge. To demonstrate this, let’s start with:

How They Did the Plane Trick at WTC2

I’ll let the following links tell as complete as story as researchers have gathered. (Note: This research doesn’t explain everything or say what, if anything, hit the 2nd tower)

http://www.youtube.com/v/xpUKwpwSRwc
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clipped from www.911closeup.com

911Chronology.com- Nico’s Timeline


The timeline of CNN’s “reality tv” hoax from Sep11th and its impact.
By Nico Haupt, New York City, March 8, 2006

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Again, another amazing piece of documentary information NOT AIRED IN THE U.S.A. (why?), from the German version of the Discovery Channel’s Documentary “Inside the Twin Towers,” entitled “Die letzten Minuten im World Trade Center,” we can see the fraudulent wescam scam of a Secretive Military Media Manipulation (Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld – CIA – Pentagon, etc…)

The planes seen BY THE TV VIEWERS were Computer Generated Images (CGI,) as Nico Haupt has been declaring for years, if they were hiding errors of a holographic image covering a missile, they failed blatantly, as they caused more errors, errors that when seen (like this one,) can make any attentive viewer to think that there were NO PLANES AT ALL HITTING THE TARGETS!

1
The wescam scam of Chopper 5, that clearly exposes all deceptions of 9/11 for every viewer willing to INVESTIGATE, as presented in Germany [RTL.]
2
The wescam equipment on the choppers, as aired by CBS and in its Dan Rather’s documentary “What We Saw,” among all other stations that were “feed” with the same deceptions.
3
Clip from WNYW’s “NY New Day,” as bravely presented initally by Dylan Avery and his team in their “think-blaster” documentary “Loose Change” (V.1) [You were in the right track boys, don't falter in the hands of wicked cointelpros!]
3
Close-up of the three vehicles visible immediatelly surrounding the fake CGI plane, including some “flashes” above the WTC and close up of the fake CGI plane itself.
4
WNYW as presented by FOX 11.
5
The context of WNYW, to demonstrate the sudden change of cameras to the opposite side, to the chopper, just to broadcast the fake plane “wescamed” by chopper 5, after that only and singular event they went back to the prevous camera that was at the other side (what did that camera without “a wescam” captured? No Plane at all? Or ‘a tinier’ missile? Or a Holo-”Plane” Missing Wings?) No big plane in the horizon.
6
The same WNYW audio as aired by FOX 5, who however, aired a completely different video. In both of them you can hear somebody, near the end saying: “Very Nice! Chopper 5, is anybody on ???” (that seems to be the voice of one of the degenerate and secretive Secretive and ‘Military’ Media Manipulation, an agent for Bush’s ‘Black Operation 911,’ one of his many “assets” (or ass….) ) And “very nice” what? The fake video for the REAL killings of American Civilians and the “”LITERAL”" Destruction of America? Shame on you! Evil crook… “very nice? , very nice?” Burn Yourself!
7
A slide depiction showing the most common use of the wescam to trace the imaginary lines for the American Football games, a GCI line that “seems so real” that even goes below the players, “as if it were there.” Well, dear America, now one of your ‘entertainment’ tools has became an assasin!
8
Nico Haupt’s comparison of the two different video images that however, aired the very same audio (those broadcasters sound so ‘faky,’ pushing the official version even “before the facts,” putting their own words in the mouth of the person interviewed (also suspicious of fake witness,) as if they alredy knew that it was a ’special assignment’ “Bush’s Black Operation” 911’s wicked ’script.’ Is that “National Security”? To whom? Certainly NOT to the American Population!!!)

This is Nico’s expert explanation for his video:
9/11 TV Fakery: Pt.3.923 (FOX TV Feed Discrepancies)
00:47
The archives of FOX5 LOCAL do not show any plane at time of second hit.
Another “exclusive” helicopter feed was instead shown on FOX 11, KTTV, the Fox owned & operated station in Los Angeles.
FOXNEWS instead picked up from WABC7, which sh The archives of FOX5 LOCAL do not show any plane at time of second hit.
Another “exclusive” helicopter feed was instead shown on FOX 11, KTTV, the Fox owned & operated station in Los Angeles.
FOXNEWS instead picked up from WABC7, which shows another discrepancy of the incoming flight path.
Also “FOX11″ tries to hide a “nose-out” with an unexplained blankout screen.
More at http://www.911tvfakery.net

Conclusion: Scum-bags perpetrators of “Bush’s Black Operation 9/11″! Sooner or later you will receive what you deserve for ALL your crimes!

That’s why another of their “agents” sang a song declaring that “They took all the footage off my T.V. Said it’s too disturbing for you and me…” (disturbing? It is evidence! To be used in a court of LAW! Against the REAL criminals! The same ones that rushed to remove the material evidence. Thank GOD for the Internet that help us keep and carefully evaluate what really happened, the advanced technology used is a signature of the U.S. “Black Operations.”) That’s why the evil commander in chief says that he “doesn’t look back”!

To see the at least 20 ‘hi-tech’ events that occurred in that brief period of 8 minutes for the WTC2 attack, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYCKV9…

See the CNN feed of the “Saltergate” infamous deception:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi3S9V… (more) (less)
Category News & Politics

Further Study Here
Killtown

as seen on tvNeo-Conning the Media

MediaTransparency.org

blog it

A Miscellaneous WABC Camera Link:

clipped from www.geocities.com
blog it

clipped from www.911closeup.com

South Tower attack: Aircraft “Video” Contradictions

http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/charlie-sheen/charlie-sheen-talks-911-conspiracy-.php
“…There was a feeling, it just didn’t look any commercial jetliner I’ve flown on any time in my life…”

http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2006/3/emw.htm&cid=
“….I saw the south tower hit live, that famous wide shot where it
disappears behind the building
and then we see the tremendous fireball.”

Here is a comment of “spooked911″, a very constructive 9/11 researcher and -blogger (covertoperations.blogspot.com) on this issue:
“… Because pictures of the south tower “entry” hole show columns knocked
inward, I tend to favor possibilities where some flying object hits the
tower.
Because videos show conflicting plane paths, this suggests to me the flying
object was invisible or only weakly visible (a blur, perhaps only seen from
certain angles).
blog it

clipped from angelsfortruth.com
Angels For Truth
There were at least two “News Helicopters” there shooting the attack.
Enhanced

Weird bright spots on the plane.

Maybe they used the film from a different sort of airplane or maybe there was allot of traffic around the World Trade Center before our Official Air Force arrived. See

blog it

clipped from www.greatdreams.com

3) A firey explosion burst forth from a corner of WTC 2 about two thirds
of the way up, perhaps the 60th floor. The fireball created an intense radiative
impulse of heat from which we all had to turn our heads. From my vantage
point, I could not see the plane that caused it, which hit 180 degrees on
the other side of the building. Nor did I know at the time that a plane caused
it. I first thought it was a bomb, but the explosion was not accompanied
by the tell-tale acoustic Shockwave that rattles windows. This was
simply a low frequency rumble.

As it burst from the building’s corner, the fireball was so large that
it extended all the way across to WTC 1. The fact the building’s corner exploded
tells me that the ignited jet fuel got focused by the sides of the floor
into which the second plane flew, meeting at the corner with increased explosive
pressure. The flames were accompanied by countless thousands of sheets of
paper that burst forth

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A Rare Post (9/11 Mass Deception) (updated)

Posted by bg on June 25, 2007

Update 6/25/07

Summary of this blog’s arguments

Here’s a quick summary of the arguments made at this blog about why there is no real evidence that planes hit the Twin Towers, and why there is strong reason to believe that false images were broadcast on 9/11. I will fill in the arguments with more links as time allows. Many of these ideas are not my original ideas, and I have tried to cite to original authors and be faithful to what they said. On the other hand, I would be surprised if the mainstream authors I cite would support the conclusions I draw from their work.
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Update 6/24/07

The Empire of Clowns Continues on Its Murderous, Genocidal Path

At this point in the monstrously bloody course of American Empire, I suppose I might take the sardonically grateful point of view. At least we now have some direct experience of how easy it was for nauseatingly corrupt Roman leaders to impose their will upon the ignorant hordes, and literally to get away with murder. Hell, who needed to “get away” with murder? Bloody, painful, lingering, ungraspably sadistic murder was one of the major entertainments.
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A Blog Which is New to Me
Superb!

Eleanor Digby; or, All the lonely people

In the land of the deaf and dumb, Digby is queen.
She’s the beltway pundits’
platonic form of a netroots insurgent,
and for the best of reasons: she’s a fuckin’ high-C fool,
just the ticket for the corporate party lite’s co-opt act.

Advice to you, my queen, before you ride out agin’ ‘em with your posse of
well-intended white-bonneted ronin –
first uncover the full dimensions of this Darth Amerika you are fixin’ to wrest
institutional power from.

Corrected Link to Digby’s Article Here:

Digby Speaks: The Netroots Revolution

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Is it any wonder that John Q. Public hasn’t caught on to the deception?

As part of its cover story on “what you need to know now,” Newsweek conducted a broad poll on a variety of political and cultural affairs. There were plenty of interesting results, but one section was particularly noteworthy.

Even today, more than four years into the war in Iraq, as many as four in ten Americans (41 percent) still believe Saddam Hussein’s regime was directly involved in financing, planning or carrying out the terrorist attacks on 9/11, even though no evidence has surfaced to support a connection. A majority of Americans were similarly unable to pick Saudi Arabia in a multiple-choice question about the country where most of the 9/11 hijackers were born. Just 43 percent got it right — and a full 20 percent thought most came from Iraq.

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Update 6/23/07

Update 6/22/07
From Morgan Reynold’s Web Site

clipped from www.nomoregames.net
Reynolds Booted from No Plane Club
Inducted into ‘Dirty Liars Club’
I was recently exiled from a group called the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine Eleven (SPINE) because I appeared on the Fox News Channel and responded to a question about planes in part by saying, “…There were no big Boeing crashes. At all four events, for example, there is no significant wreckage…an aluminum plane cannot go through a building like the South Tower was, as if it were thin air, glide right through it…”
The land of 9/11 is treacherous and the latest tremor was that Gerard Holmgren, a pioneer “no planer” and debater extraordinaire, broke the stunning news that I am “a plane hugger who is pretending to be a no plane proponent.” Mr. Holmgren makes his case by assuming the worst about my intentions, my work and what I say, so I must try to correct the record. But first, let me explain why I am responding to him now rather than, say, back in January.
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Update 6/21/07

No-plane witness?

http://www.tgeneva.com/~davethom/

After a while, I saw a huge fireball on the second tower — being on the far side, I didn’t see the plane and assumed a bomb or something had gone off. Other people behind me on land had a wider view and said they saw the second plane approach from far away, figuring it was a rescue plane of some kind. The second image shows the puff of the second impact, with arcing debris on the left side.

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Update 6/20/07
Read this section last. Links from a website of pre-9/11 articles that might provide a historical and global context for 9/11:

Oracle of Alberta

Seven Golden Threads of the Global Quilt

Ode to Joy

On the Side of Golden Angels

Trick or Treat? – Novus Ordo Seclorum* and China

Demystifying Gold and Oil Trading through the LBMA Part – I

The H.M.S. Prosperity and Icebergs

Enroute to the Millennium Checkmate & a One World Order

Unveiling the Wizards of Oz – Part 1

Unveiling the Wizards of Oz – Part 2


6/19/07
This blog is meant to play the role of a diary or notepad for interesting links, many having to do with September 11. Rarely do I post anything near the short or long essays like other bloggers.

With that said, I think there has been enough activity at Screw Loose Change Blog and other places I frequent to warrant a “coming clean” or at least an explanation of where I stand with respect to 9/11 alternative theories. For 98% of those who find most all “9/11 Truthers” repugnant, I realize that there is not much to be gained as far as earning respect. So, I’m doing this for myself and for those other 2% of 9/11 Govt. story supporters, and for all those who pour your heart and soul into speaking out against the certain avoidance of the truth, and/or lies by individuals who owe their Country more of an explanation than has been provided.

To keep this short, I’m going to focus on the 2nd hit on 9/11, and the particular point of view which is sometimes called the “no plane” argument.

In many ways, implications of 9/11 alternative explanations describing who was behind 9/11 and the specifics of how it was executed are not important. Additionally, various authors have developed the abbreviations such as LIHOP and MIHOP. As useful as these labels are, I am arguing that the specifics of how 9/11 was engineered, and the extent that a certain circle of preps either provocateured, or engineered the destruction is not the overarching concern either. I want to note clearly that I’m saying that nuts and bolts of what happened and how, and how many innocent lives were destroyed, is of lesser import than an understanding of the nature of the “trick” and the huge payoff that the trick provided.

For those of you who simply want to debate and debunk various alternative theories, I know the following is going to bore you, so skip it if you wish.

Now, the rest of us, not the ones who just want to argue, and who are more interested in the impact of 9/11 on civilization than “conspiracy/anti-conspiracy debates”, should be able to agree on the following:

1) 9/11 was a slam dunk as a propaganda tool.

As a propaganda tool, it justified:

a) aggressive invasions of foreign lands
b) laws passed to enable police actions (spying, mass hysteria, and other steps including unchecked arrest and detainment) which would normally be met with massive push back from legislators and members of the public.

The mass media based experience of 9/11 created a myth of a grave danger (from mainly Arab terrorists) that would provide a foundational meme to justify a seemingly unlimited amount of military mobilization, spending, and general fear culture.

The idea that there exists a group of people who could have planned such an ambitious operation was indeed very difficult for this author accept, as it is for a huge majority of Americans. For example, there is very little in mainstream documented history of the US that could begin to explain how the press, particularly all major TV broadcasting outlets, could be co-opted to play along or support such a wholesale betrayal of the truth. Therefore, in order to begin to make a case for such a conspiracy, one must be able to point to evidence that this coordinated trickery is possible. (Hint: the ruse only required the insider status of a hand-full of individuals with access and amazing technology.)

Of course it’s way beyond the scope of this post to provide the background to make the case for the “Octopus”; for that reason, I’ll focus on the 2nd hit to serve as a gateway to seeing the larger picture.

Sometimes, rather than jump to a dry description of what transpired on 9/11 with the 2nd hit event, it is instructive to see how others have grappled with the same evidence and interpretations, and how they have struggled and fallen short of getting to the crux of the matter as well as failing to find the clues pointing to breakthrough knowledge. To demonstrate this, let’s start with:

How They Did the Plane Trick at WTC2

I’ll let the following links tell as complete as story as researchers have gathered. (Note: This research doesn’t explain everything or say what, if anything, hit the 2nd tower)

http://www.youtube.com/v/xpUKwpwSRwc
———————————————————————————–

clipped from www.911closeup.com

911Chronology.com- Nico’s Timeline


The timeline of CNN’s “reality tv” hoax from Sep11th and its impact.
By Nico Haupt, New York City, March 8, 2006

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Again, another amazing piece of documentary information NOT AIRED IN THE U.S.A. (why?), from the German version of the Discovery Channel’s Documentary “Inside the Twin Towers,” entitled “Die letzten Minuten im World Trade Center,” we can see the fraudulent wescam scam of a Secretive Military Media Manipulation (Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld – CIA – Pentagon, etc…)

The planes seen BY THE TV VIEWERS were Computer Generated Images (CGI,) as Nico Haupt has been declaring for years, if they were hiding errors of a holographic image covering a missile, they failed blatantly, as they caused more errors, errors that when seen (like this one,) can make any attentive viewer to think that there were NO PLANES AT ALL HITTING THE TARGETS!

1
The wescam scam of Chopper 5, that clearly exposes all deceptions of 9/11 for every viewer willing to INVESTIGATE, as presented in Germany [RTL.]
2
The wescam equipment on the choppers, as aired by CBS and in its Dan Rather’s documentary “What We Saw,” among all other stations that were “feed” with the same deceptions.
3
Clip from WNYW’s “NY New Day,” as bravely presented initally by Dylan Avery and his team in their “think-blaster” documentary “Loose Change” (V.1) [You were in the right track boys, don't falter in the hands of wicked cointelpros!]
3
Close-up of the three vehicles visible immediatelly surrounding the fake CGI plane, including some “flashes” above the WTC and close up of the fake CGI plane itself.
4
WNYW as presented by FOX 11.
5
The context of WNYW, to demonstrate the sudden change of cameras to the opposite side, to the chopper, just to broadcast the fake plane “wescamed” by chopper 5, after that only and singular event they went back to the prevous camera that was at the other side (what did that camera without “a wescam” captured? No Plane at all? Or ‘a tinier’ missile? Or a Holo-”Plane” Missing Wings?) No big plane in the horizon.
6
The same WNYW audio as aired by FOX 5, who however, aired a completely different video. In both of them you can hear somebody, near the end saying: “Very Nice! Chopper 5, is anybody on ???” (that seems to be the voice of one of the degenerate and secretive Secretive and ‘Military’ Media Manipulation, an agent for Bush’s ‘Black Operation 911,’ one of his many “assets” (or ass….) ) And “very nice” what? The fake video for the REAL killings of American Civilians and the “”LITERAL”" Destruction of America? Shame on you! Evil crook… “very nice? , very nice?” Burn Yourself!
7
A slide depiction showing the most common use of the wescam to trace the imaginary lines for the American Football games, a GCI line that “seems so real” that even goes below the players, “as if it were there.” Well, dear America, now one of your ‘entertainment’ tools has became an assasin!
8
Nico Haupt’s comparison of the two different video images that however, aired the very same audio (those broadcasters sound so ‘faky,’ pushing the official version even “before the facts,” putting their own words in the mouth of the person interviewed (also suspicious of fake witness,) as if they alredy knew that it was a ’special assignment’ “Bush’s Black Operation” 911’s wicked ’script.’ Is that “National Security”? To whom? Certainly NOT to the American Population!!!)

This is Nico’s expert explanation for his video:
9/11 TV Fakery: Pt.3.923 (FOX TV Feed Discrepancies)
00:47
The archives of FOX5 LOCAL do not show any plane at time of second hit.
Another “exclusive” helicopter feed was instead shown on FOX 11, KTTV, the Fox owned & operated station in Los Angeles.
FOXNEWS instead picked up from WABC7, which sh The archives of FOX5 LOCAL do not show any plane at time of second hit.
Another “exclusive” helicopter feed was instead shown on FOX 11, KTTV, the Fox owned & operated station in Los Angeles.
FOXNEWS instead picked up from WABC7, which shows another discrepancy of the incoming flight path.
Also “FOX11″ tries to hide a “nose-out” with an unexplained blankout screen.
More at http://www.911tvfakery.net

Conclusion: Scum-bags perpetrators of “Bush’s Black Operation 9/11″! Sooner or later you will receive what you deserve for ALL your crimes!

That’s why another of their “agents” sang a song declaring that “They took all the footage off my T.V. Said it’s too disturbing for you and me…” (disturbing? It is evidence! To be used in a court of LAW! Against the REAL criminals! The same ones that rushed to remove the material evidence. Thank GOD for the Internet that help us keep and carefully evaluate what really happened, the advanced technology used is a signature of the U.S. “Black Operations.”) That’s why the evil commander in chief says that he “doesn’t look back”!

To see the at least 20 ‘hi-tech’ events that occurred in that brief period of 8 minutes for the WTC2 attack, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYCKV9…

See the CNN feed of the “Saltergate” infamous deception:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi3S9V… (more) (less)
Category News & Politics

Further Study Here
Killtown

as seen on tvNeo-Conning the Media

MediaTransparency.org

blog it

A Miscellaneous WABC Camera Link:

clipped from www.geocities.com
blog it

clipped from www.911closeup.com

South Tower attack: Aircraft “Video” Contradictions

http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/charlie-sheen/charlie-sheen-talks-911-conspiracy-.php
“…There was a feeling, it just didn’t look any commercial jetliner I’ve flown on any time in my life…”

http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2006/3/emw.htm&cid=
“….I saw the south tower hit live, that famous wide shot where it
disappears behind the building
and then we see the tremendous fireball.”

Here is a comment of “spooked911″, a very constructive 9/11 researcher and -blogger (covertoperations.blogspot.com) on this issue:
“… Because pictures of the south tower “entry” hole show columns knocked
inward, I tend to favor possibilities where some flying object hits the
tower.
Because videos show conflicting plane paths, this suggests to me the flying
object was invisible or only weakly visible (a blur, perhaps only seen from
certain angles).
blog it

clipped from angelsfortruth.com
Angels For Truth
There were at least two “News Helicopters” there shooting the attack.
Enhanced

Weird bright spots on the plane.

Maybe they used the film from a different sort of airplane or maybe there was allot of traffic around the World Trade Center before our Official Air Force arrived. See

blog it

clipped from www.greatdreams.com

3) A firey explosion burst forth from a corner of WTC 2 about two thirds
of the way up, perhaps the 60th floor. The fireball created an intense radiative
impulse of heat from which we all had to turn our heads. From my vantage
point, I could not see the plane that caused it, which hit 180 degrees on
the other side of the building. Nor did I know at the time that a plane caused
it. I first thought it was a bomb, but the explosion was not accompanied
by the tell-tale acoustic Shockwave that rattles windows. This was
simply a low frequency rumble.

As it burst from the building’s corner, the fireball was so large that
it extended all the way across to WTC 1. The fact the building’s corner exploded
tells me that the ignited jet fuel got focused by the sides of the floor
into which the second plane flew, meeting at the corner with increased explosive
pressure. The flames were accompanied by countless thousands of sheets of
paper that burst forth

blog it

[End of Post in Progress]
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Alex Jones Watch: #11: Woeful Lack of Awareness of WTC Hit #2 Videos and Pics

Posted by bg on February 19, 2007

A caller on today’s show asked Alex about what he thought of the pictures and video of the 2nd hit at the WTC on 9/11.

The caller specifically mentioned the “projectile” that can be seen having a distinctive smoke trail. These details have been discussed in depth at some web sites / blogs, and in some case these details has been used to mislead in my estimation.

Unfortunately, Alex has not come even close to “doing his homework” on this topic. Alex ignorantly said: it just looks like an airplane hitting the tower to me.

I would claim that the “projectile” exited the side of the WTC (not the opposite side as some researchers have claimed). However, for Alex to claim that the details shown in the videos are consistent with the official story of Flight 175 hitting the tower is just about one of the biggest misunderstandings that I’ve seen Alex manifest.

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Alex Jones Watch: #11: Woeful Lack of Awareness of WTC Hit #2 Videos and Pics

Posted by bg on February 19, 2007

A caller on today’s show asked Alex about what he thought of the pictures and video of the 2nd hit at the WTC on 9/11.

The caller specifically mentioned the “projectile” that can be seen having a distinctive smoke trail. These details have been discussed in depth at some web sites / blogs, and in some case these details has been used to mislead in my estimation.

Unfortunately, Alex has not come even close to “doing his homework” on this topic. Alex ignorantly said: it just looks like an airplane hitting the tower to me.

I would claim that the “projectile” exited the side of the WTC (not the opposite side as some researchers have claimed). However, for Alex to claim that the details shown in the videos are consistent with the official story of Flight 175 hitting the tower is just about one of the biggest misunderstandings that I’ve seen Alex manifest.

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