Okay, I’ve read the paper. If I was a referee for this paper, I would write even less than I wrote about the last paper discussed above. This paper is, as Wolfgang Pauli once said, “not even wrong.” (An apparently scientific argument is said to be not even wrong if it is based on assumptions that are known to be incorrect, or alternatively theories which cannot possibly be falsified or used to predict anything. ) That’s probably what I would say in a referee report. But my wife wants me to tell you, the reader, why I say this.
In case you have trouble downloading it from there (as opposed to just listening to it) you can get the full 41.38 MB MP3 file at the following (somewhat slow) link:
Based on these videos, I would suggest the following:
1. The initiation of the explosions starting the collapse, based on the orange hot spots and then a moment later a horizontal row of explosions are roughly as high up as the plane stuck WTC 1.
2. For those who think that the idea that this a “top-down” collapse, (not a bottom up as is usual for other video specimens of CDs), you are omitting the details of clear instantaneous events which do happen to commence near the top of WTC 1. However, whatever one attributes the collapse with the idea that the “plane” crash damage, and ensuing fires, and loss of structural integrity, it is a complete nonstarter. Look at the evidence: there is no way to negate the idea that detonations of some type are underway.
The following screen snaps are presented in sequence: (this snaps occur at the time stamp of about 1:31 remaining in the video as shown by the video player at the target web page)
One of the main arguments defenders of the official story have made against the controlled demolition of the Twin Towers is that demolitions never start at the top of the building. In other words, they claim that demolitions always start at the bottom and proceed upwards.
Our civilization is locked in the grip of an ideology – CORPORATISM. An ideology that denies and undermines the legitimacy of individuals as the citizen in a democracy. The particular imbalance of this ideology leads to a worship of self-interest and a denial of the public good. The practical effects on the individual are passivity and conformism in the areas that matter, and non-conformism in the areas that don’t. John Ralston Saul
Major events timed to an accuracy of 1 second are: • First plane strike on WTC 1: 8:46:30 a.m. • Second plane strike on WTC 2: 9:02:59 a.m. • Collapse of WTC 2: 9:58:59 a.m. • Collapse of WTC 1: 10:28:25 a.m. • Collapse of WTC 7: 5:20:52 p.m.
WTC2 The aircraft struck the tower with a measured speed of 545 miles per hour ± 18 miles per hour
I went to the otherside (West Side Hwy) of my building, and came across this – what looks to be an office chair or a airplane seat embedded in the back of a car. I found out that the telephone pole near the building was wiped out by a falling plane tire.
A. It looked like pieces of a plane, skin of a plane. I mean, they weren’t really discernible. I couldn’t say this was this part of a plane or that was that part. Just knowing a plane had hit the building and I looked and I saw it looked like the skin off a wing or a fuselage or wherever it came from.
Q. Clearly not building material?
A. No. The building material was sort of gray and you could see it, you know, how it differed from the plane. I was listening to the tape this morning of the people calling up and they were describing the plane that hit the building. Actually, so many people saw it. They actually described the plane as it came in. They said it was a *military-type plane and it was green* and it was this.
EMT STEPHEN HESS West below Liberty
came through the tunnel, and our initial response was seeing body parts and airplane parts all over the west side. West HW
Here is some information that was sent in. Please note, there are more images than this, and I did alter these ones to limit their file size, so if you need the originals please contact us or Louis.
Update: I was just informed that images posted in the above link are not full size, so definitely, get in contact if you’d like the full size images.
I was there that morning of 9/11 working on a nearby roof and the following week I was asked to go to Ground Zero to help with the rigging of some of the buildings that were damaged. I worked on, 1 Liberty Plaza, Century 21 Building, Hilton Millenium Hotel, and The Federal Building.
Working at the Federal Building, it was our job to hang swing stage scaffolds from the 7th floor setback roof. When I first got up on the lower setback roof and saw the amount of debris I was amazed. Giant pieces of the World Trade Center aluminum siding were everywhere. We had to move most of them to fasten our tie-back scaffold cables. While moving one of these 7 foot pieces of aluminum I noticed what looked like an airplane part. I picked it up and it had a serial number on it and something in writing “hydraulic piston”. About a half hour later, the Postal Investigator and an FBI Agent came up to the setback roof. I was asked where exactly did I find it and not to remove anything else, especially anything spray painted in yellow paint. I was told that there were many airplane parts on the roof and most of them were identified by yellow spray paint.
Well throughout the day working on the roof I had come across the yellow paint on some objects. No one was supposed to have a camera on the Ground Zero site, but everyone had one. I had my in my work bucket and took pictures of the whole setback roof and debris.
Well, we had problems securing some tie- back cables to the setback roof and I had to go to the upper roof to see if we could run the cables up there. I had my camera and headed for the upper roof and I couldn’t believe what I saw. There was a large piece of a landing gear and pieces of airplane parts all over the roof. I took many pictures and quickly left he roof.
I have been told just recently that there are airplane experts who could easily identify what type of airplane it was from my photos. If there is anyone who would be willing to examine my photos and has knowledge to identify the “TRUTH” of what type of aiplane really crashed into the WTC that day, I would be more than happy to show them my photos.
A large airplane jet engine was photographed in the street near Church St., but was immediately roped off my the FBI. Those photos have raised many questions as to whether the plane was really was a 767 engine or a 737. The engine has since been supposedly “lost” or buried at the landfill. Why would such an artifact of great importance quietly disappear and not end up in a museum!
I’m a construction worker and have almost no knowledge of photography, my pictures are real and authenticand have never been altered in any way. So, if you’re an expert in airplane part and think you can finally clear up this question of airplane conspiracy, email me at chingy711@verizon.net
Our civilization is locked in the grip of an ideology – CORPORATISM. An ideology that denies and undermines the legitimacy of individuals as the citizen in a democracy. The particular imbalance of this ideology leads to a worship of self-interest and a denial of the public good. The practical effects on the individual are passivity and conformism in the areas that matter, and non-conformism in the areas that don’t. John Ralston Saul
Major events timed to an accuracy of 1 second are: • First plane strike on WTC 1: 8:46:30 a.m. • Second plane strike on WTC 2: 9:02:59 a.m. • Collapse of WTC 2: 9:58:59 a.m. • Collapse of WTC 1: 10:28:25 a.m. • Collapse of WTC 7: 5:20:52 p.m.
WTC2 The aircraft struck the tower with a measured speed of 545 miles per hour ± 18 miles per hour
I went to the otherside (West Side Hwy) of my building, and came across this – what looks to be an office chair or a airplane seat embedded in the back of a car. I found out that the telephone pole near the building was wiped out by a falling plane tire.
A. It looked like pieces of a plane, skin of a plane. I mean, they weren’t really discernible. I couldn’t say this was this part of a plane or that was that part. Just knowing a plane had hit the building and I looked and I saw it looked like the skin off a wing or a fuselage or wherever it came from.
Q. Clearly not building material?
A. No. The building material was sort of gray and you could see it, you know, how it differed from the plane. I was listening to the tape this morning of the people calling up and they were describing the plane that hit the building. Actually, so many people saw it. They actually described the plane as it came in. They said it was a *military-type plane and it was green* and it was this.
EMT STEPHEN HESS West below Liberty
came through the tunnel, and our initial response was seeing body parts and airplane parts all over the west side. West HW
Here is some information that was sent in. Please note, there are more images than this, and I did alter these ones to limit their file size, so if you need the originals please contact us or Louis.
Update: I was just informed that images posted in the above link are not full size, so definitely, get in contact if you’d like the full size images.
I was there that morning of 9/11 working on a nearby roof and the following week I was asked to go to Ground Zero to help with the rigging of some of the buildings that were damaged. I worked on, 1 Liberty Plaza, Century 21 Building, Hilton Millenium Hotel, and The Federal Building.
Working at the Federal Building, it was our job to hang swing stage scaffolds from the 7th floor setback roof. When I first got up on the lower setback roof and saw the amount of debris I was amazed. Giant pieces of the World Trade Center aluminum siding were everywhere. We had to move most of them to fasten our tie-back scaffold cables. While moving one of these 7 foot pieces of aluminum I noticed what looked like an airplane part. I picked it up and it had a serial number on it and something in writing “hydraulic piston”. About a half hour later, the Postal Investigator and an FBI Agent came up to the setback roof. I was asked where exactly did I find it and not to remove anything else, especially anything spray painted in yellow paint. I was told that there were many airplane parts on the roof and most of them were identified by yellow spray paint.
Well throughout the day working on the roof I had come across the yellow paint on some objects. No one was supposed to have a camera on the Ground Zero site, but everyone had one. I had my in my work bucket and took pictures of the whole setback roof and debris.
Well, we had problems securing some tie- back cables to the setback roof and I had to go to the upper roof to see if we could run the cables up there. I had my camera and headed for the upper roof and I couldn’t believe what I saw. There was a large piece of a landing gear and pieces of airplane parts all over the roof. I took many pictures and quickly left he roof.
I have been told just recently that there are airplane experts who could easily identify what type of airplane it was from my photos. If there is anyone who would be willing to examine my photos and has knowledge to identify the “TRUTH” of what type of aiplane really crashed into the WTC that day, I would be more than happy to show them my photos.
A large airplane jet engine was photographed in the street near Church St., but was immediately roped off my the FBI. Those photos have raised many questions as to whether the plane was really was a 767 engine or a 737. The engine has since been supposedly “lost” or buried at the landfill. Why would such an artifact of great importance quietly disappear and not end up in a museum!
I’m a construction worker and have almost no knowledge of photography, my pictures are real and authenticand have never been altered in any way. So, if you’re an expert in airplane part and think you can finally clear up this question of airplane conspiracy, email me at chingy711@verizon.net
As I watch this video, I consider if there is any way that the probable truth about 9/11 can be captured in the upcoming release of Loose Change. This firefighter testimony is valuable in many ways. However, there are so many pieces to the puzzle.
There seems no doubt in my estimation that the evidence goes completely against the idea that commercial airliners hit the towers on 9/11. What really happened instead, and how the official story was broadcast as a cover up is worthy of hours of a video presentation to itself.
9/11 Firefighter Sets the Historical Record Straight
By Manny Badillo, Victim’s Family Member, August 7th, 2007
BROOKLYN, N.Y. – Firefighter John Schroeder, assigned to Engine Company 10 directly across the street from the World Trade Center complex, holds back tears and describes his first-hand experience on Sept. 11th. His story directly contradicts many aspects of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks any corroborates many other eyewitnesses testimony.
“Standing outside the firehouse with my buddies, we were talking about how beautiful the day was. Then just like that, our lives changed forever. Some of those guys I would never see again.”
In this exclusive interview, Firefighter Schroeder recollects in great detail how he was one of the first firefighters to rush to the complex. “We first assembled on West Street, where we saw someone burnt beyond recognition. We were like ‘What is going on here?’ and then went straight into the Marriot building” From there, Firefighter Schroeder made his way to the lobby of the North Tower. “It looked like a bomb went off, and we started making our way up the stairs to rescue as many people as we could.”
As they were making there way up the floors, Firefighter Schroeder heard a huge explosion. “The elevators just blew right out. We couldn’t believe it. The plane hits 80 floors up but the elevators explode at least five minutes later? It was unreal.”
Firefighter Schroeder made it all the way up to the 23rd floor before barely hearing on the failing radios that another plane was coming in. That plane would hit the South Tower, though for some reason, “We were tossed like a rag doll by another explosion in our building. People were making there way down the stairwells burnt like you couldn’t believe. We were all shocked because it seemed as if there was fire everywhere, on so many floors. It just didn’t make sense”.
The stairwells were black, and at that point, firefighters were making the decision to head back down stairs. In making there way down to the third floor, they were not able to find an exit. “The lobby was like a war zone. We could not find our way out. Then, all of a sudden, one of the maintenance workers had a key that opened a back door that got us out of there. He saved my life.” That worker was Willie Rodriguez. “I want to thank him from the bottom of my heart.”
Firefighter Schroeder today has lost 40% of his lung capacity. “We haven’t been treated properly at all. From the day of the attack, our physical and mental health has deteriorated and it seems as if no one cares. To lose friends, to have to recover their bodies in the days after, to be offered no protections against that horrific-smelling dust that was everywhere even though the government said the air was OK to breathe is just not right.” Some of Firefighter’s Schroeder’s best friends have gotten out of the FDNY altogether while others accepted money and trips to help. “I stayed right here and did the right thing and now it feels as if I’m suffering the most. Where is our government to help the one’s with the toughest jobs on that day and the days after?”
As I watch this video, I consider if there is any way that the probable truth about 9/11 can be captured in the upcoming release of Loose Change. This firefighter testimony is valuable in many ways. However, there are so many pieces to the puzzle.
There seems no doubt in my estimation that the evidence goes completely against the idea that commercial airliners hit the towers on 9/11. What really happened instead, and how the official story was broadcast as a cover up is worthy of hours of a video presentation to itself.
9/11 Firefighter Sets the Historical Record Straight
By Manny Badillo, Victim’s Family Member, August 7th, 2007
BROOKLYN, N.Y. – Firefighter John Schroeder, assigned to Engine Company 10 directly across the street from the World Trade Center complex, holds back tears and describes his first-hand experience on Sept. 11th. His story directly contradicts many aspects of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks any corroborates many other eyewitnesses testimony.
“Standing outside the firehouse with my buddies, we were talking about how beautiful the day was. Then just like that, our lives changed forever. Some of those guys I would never see again.”
In this exclusive interview, Firefighter Schroeder recollects in great detail how he was one of the first firefighters to rush to the complex. “We first assembled on West Street, where we saw someone burnt beyond recognition. We were like ‘What is going on here?’ and then went straight into the Marriot building” From there, Firefighter Schroeder made his way to the lobby of the North Tower. “It looked like a bomb went off, and we started making our way up the stairs to rescue as many people as we could.”
As they were making there way up the floors, Firefighter Schroeder heard a huge explosion. “The elevators just blew right out. We couldn’t believe it. The plane hits 80 floors up but the elevators explode at least five minutes later? It was unreal.”
Firefighter Schroeder made it all the way up to the 23rd floor before barely hearing on the failing radios that another plane was coming in. That plane would hit the South Tower, though for some reason, “We were tossed like a rag doll by another explosion in our building. People were making there way down the stairwells burnt like you couldn’t believe. We were all shocked because it seemed as if there was fire everywhere, on so many floors. It just didn’t make sense”.
The stairwells were black, and at that point, firefighters were making the decision to head back down stairs. In making there way down to the third floor, they were not able to find an exit. “The lobby was like a war zone. We could not find our way out. Then, all of a sudden, one of the maintenance workers had a key that opened a back door that got us out of there. He saved my life.” That worker was Willie Rodriguez. “I want to thank him from the bottom of my heart.”
Firefighter Schroeder today has lost 40% of his lung capacity. “We haven’t been treated properly at all. From the day of the attack, our physical and mental health has deteriorated and it seems as if no one cares. To lose friends, to have to recover their bodies in the days after, to be offered no protections against that horrific-smelling dust that was everywhere even though the government said the air was OK to breathe is just not right.” Some of Firefighter’s Schroeder’s best friends have gotten out of the FDNY altogether while others accepted money and trips to help. “I stayed right here and did the right thing and now it feels as if I’m suffering the most. Where is our government to help the one’s with the toughest jobs on that day and the days after?”
In today’s radio program, (5/4/2007) Alex gets this wrong.
First, a little context to explain this post. Alex was discussing the clear lie by Pres. Bush about having seen the 1st hit “on TV”. Alex’s point is very important on this and he is right on the money.
However, he goes on to say that it was a long time before the 1st hit video was released. He’s not correct here. Clips of the Naudet Bros 1st ht vid was shown on major media on 9/12.
Try getting your facts right, Attaboy – it might help us take your arguments seriously. For a start : 1. It was American Airlines, not United, Flight 11. 2. The Naudet video was shown on British – and probably US – TV the next day, not “some days after the attacks.” I have a videotape of it on the ITN News, 12 September 2001. 3. It is not the only video of the first plane – you have obviously never heard of Pavel Hlava.
This video was shot (to tape) by Jules Naudet. It is the only known video of the 1st WTC impact. It spent the day in his camera with him at Ground Zero.It was first broadcast by Univision at around 1 a.m. (EDT) on 9/12, which is when this VHS recording was made.(download) (download2)
In today’s radio program, (5/4/2007) Alex gets this wrong.
First, a little context to explain this post. Alex was discussing the clear lie by Pres. Bush about having seen the 1st hit “on TV”. Alex’s point is very important on this and he is right on the money.
However, he goes on to say that it was a long time before the 1st hit video was released. He’s not correct here. Clips of the Naudet Bros 1st ht vid was shown on major media on 9/12.
Try getting your facts right, Attaboy – it might help us take your arguments seriously. For a start : 1. It was American Airlines, not United, Flight 11. 2. The Naudet video was shown on British – and probably US – TV the next day, not “some days after the attacks.” I have a videotape of it on the ITN News, 12 September 2001. 3. It is not the only video of the first plane – you have obviously never heard of Pavel Hlava.
This video was shot (to tape) by Jules Naudet. It is the only known video of the 1st WTC impact. It spent the day in his camera with him at Ground Zero.It was first broadcast by Univision at around 1 a.m. (EDT) on 9/12, which is when this VHS recording was made.(download) (download2)
most people would find it odd that the video that is supposed to show a 767 attacking the WTC doesn’t really show a 767: On any other day but 9/11… most people would find the damage pattern to the steel columns of the outer WTC wall supposedly made by a plane wing very odd: On any other day but 9/11… most people would find it odd that key videos of the 2nd WTC attack have such a strong blue coloring: On any other day but 9/11… most people might be surprised that there is no exit hole in the north face of WTC2, after videos were shown where the nose of the plane passed through the building: On any other day but 9/11… most people might think it very strange how…
